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[Matt S]

Hi GWier,

I am with you, those are current and valid questions you asked. I wish to hear the GDI moderator answers for your questions.
All the best.
MattS

[Amy Derby]

you do know Dobermanns RULE-right?

Do Dobermans eat toddlers? 



To Tatjana, Regarding:

If you have stored the picture on MSN SPACE you have actually sign in first and then open the galery, rightclick on the picture you want to add and then select properties and copy the URL from there.

Direct uploading from your computer to the forum is not possible!!!

Some free picture hosting sites don't allow what is called direct linking, so you wouldn't always be able to use the link.  With MSN, I didn't know you could.  But that's cool that that works.

If you want to lead the picture from your computer/desktop, you can do that, too.  Once you're in Sitebuilder, you can go to the "manage my gallery" button at the bottom, and then hit "browse" to find the image you've saved on your computer and hit upload, and then once you're on the page to make your web site, you can just hit "insert image" and that's it.

It's sometimes safer to do it that way, because then you know all your stuff is on YOUR one server, and if MSN is having site problems, you will not get the big red x instead of your image.

Hope that makes sense?

Thanks for posting about the pictures.  There are a lot of people who don't know how to do it, so it helps to have a guide, especially when first starting, it's hard to remember all the codes.

Hi GWier,

I am with you, those are current and valid questions you asked. I wish to hear the GDI moderator answers for your questions.
All the best.
MattS

Matt, is that what you were asking about, or another post?  Sometimes with replies, even though it seems like your reply will go to the person whose post you are reading at the time, after it finally appears, it is hard to know exactly who is talking to who and about what.

If you still need answers on something else, I'm sure one of the moderators will be along soon. 

[Tatjana Prelog]

To Tatjana, Regarding:

If you have stored the picture on MSN SPACE you have actually sign in first and then open the galery, rightclick on the picture you want to add and then select properties and copy the URL from there.

Direct uploading from your computer to the forum is not possible!!!

Some free picture hosting sites don't allow what is called direct linking, so you wouldn't always be able to use the link.  With MSN, I didn't know you could.  But that's cool that that works.

If you want to lead the picture from your computer/desktop, you can do that, too.  Once you're in Sitebuilder, you can go to the "manage my gallery" button at the bottom, and then hit "browse" to find the image you've saved on your computer and hit upload, and then once you're on the page to make your web site, you can just hit "insert image" and that's it.

It's sometimes safer to do it that way, because then you know all your stuff is on YOUR one server, and if MSN is having site problems, you will not get the big red x instead of your image.

Hope that makes sense?

Thanks for posting about the pictures.  There are a lot of people who don't know how to do it, so it helps to have a guide, especially when first starting, it's hard to remember all the codes.

With direct uploading from your computer I meant direct browsing through your computer during writing the message to the forum. If you read my message carefully then you read about uploading the picture to the SiteBuilder galery a bit above this you've just quoted.

On MSN you have to log in to YOUR OWN SPACE (understandable) and OPEN THE PHOTO ALBUM YOU'VE CREATED there. When the album is opened (prepared for editing) you instead of editing pictures rightclick on the picture you want to add to the forum message and pick the PROPERTIES OPTION to see the URL.
IF YOU'LL DO IT UNSIGNED OR WITH CLOSED PHOTO ALBUM (that means in not editing mode) YOU WON'T GET THE PROPER LINK AND THE PICTURE WON'T APEAR!!!

ONE MORE IMPORTANT THING - THE PICTURES ON MSN ARE SO LITTLE AS THIS IN MY PREVIOUS POST (because the program generates their size by itself)!!! SO YOU MAYBE WON'T BE SATISFIED WITH THAT!

Now I see I really have to do a special website here for all picture fans and beginners - MAYBE YOU EVEN GET SOME IDEAS.

Have a WONDERFUL DAY - and snap some pictures - it makes fun - you'll see!!!

Tatjana

 

[Rhonda D]

I'm not sure if this was mentioned yet or not in this thread (I can't remember where I saw this), but you can host your pics free at www.photobucket.com - they list different variations for you to link your pics - like url, html, and BBC (?) code.  I used them to host the banner for my hubby's site b/c we were having probs w/ it not displaying, and ever since I used the url as the source for the pic it shows fine.

Ok, I really hope that made sense.  I'm so tired right now ... I have no idea lol.  My 2 little guys wore me out today and the day isn't even really over yet!  I might just pass out w/ them when bedtime rolls around lol!

[Deborah H]

Do Dobermans eat toddlers?   
WoW!! NO!! They eat bad guys. Raise dobes and socialise them with everyone and they are very good with kids. This isnt the place for stories. But I have some on kids and dobes that are REALLY FUNNY!!

The photobucket addy. THANK YOU!! I have my pics on my hard drive-so no htp: etc on them. I was wondering how in the world to get that and now I know! 
Thank YOU!!

[KevinHorton]

Are you serious??? GDI sends 7 follow up emails for us??!!!

Thats GREAT!!!

I was about to write up a letter for follow up emails

[Amy Derby]

Tatjana, thanks for clarifying.  Now I understand what you were meaning before.  I misunderstood.  What I was talking about is different entirely.  There are so many ways to go when it comes to graphics/photos online.

If you want to make your MSN photos larger, once you're posting them to a web site (not meaning here at this forum, but on your actual web site), you can do so with this html code:
<img>"http://URL WHERE THE PICTURE IS STORED" height=___ width=___</img>
(Where the ___ is, after the = signs, you'd put in, say 150 and 150, or 500 and 400, or whatever size, by pixels, you want the picture to be.)

For the folks talking about hosting images on free servers like photobucket, if you have a .WS site, you can host all your own photos.  This is what I was trying to explain above (but probable wasn't clear).  Go to MANAGE GALLERY in SiteBuilder, and you can upload and store all images, including photos, there.  The advantage to storing them on GDI's server is that free servers are down a lot, and when the server that stores your image is down, folks looking at the graphics will see a big red x instead of the graphic.

And Deborah, feel free to pm me.  I can always use a good story.

[Steve_Farber]

I wanted to start a new thread because the original one was getting very big. Hi all,

I realize I posted a few times on the original post and didn't answer some of the questions or concerns and I'll try to do that now.

Someone on the original thread said he doesn't agree with my "Don't market GDI (domains/hosting)." statement...  My initial answer to his statement is in the form of a question.  WHY did you join GDI?  My broad answer to that question is that I joined for the opportunity, simplicity and low start up and monthly cost.  I could have joined any number of product based companies and pay a minimum of $100 per month auto-ship.  Personally I have never really liked that concept and have always shyed away. 

Prior to GDI I was involved with Excel a MLM telecom company.  It was expensive to join and hard to get people to fork over $400 to get started, not to mention all of the other monthly website fees, etc.

The point I am trying to make is I didn't join GDI to get hosting, email accounts and a domain. I joined for the money!

I did a little searching on Google on why most people join Network Marketing (MLM):

#1 - More money 49%
#2 - More free time 19%
#3 - Material Goods 18%
#4 - Purchase products 8%
#5 - Other 6%

This question asked for a basic, fill in the blank response. "More money" responses included those which involved any financial gain, such as "funds to invest," or "retirement account." "More free time" responses included such goals as "waking up later," "spending more time with family," or "work at home/no more commuting." "Other" usually involved personal goals such as "Security," "Self esteem," or "meet more people."

68% of the people joined for the top 2 reasons versus 26% joining for the 3rd and 4th reasons.

If 68% of the people are interested in More Money and Free Time then why are you wasting your time advertising to the 26% that joined for Material Goods or Purchase Products.

As much as you and I are excited about GDI and it's domain package, it's not the real reason MOST people joined.

So with all that said, don't advertise the product, advertise the dream, which it more money and free time.  Even if you don't agree with me, don't reinvent the wheel, don't go against the grain because the grain is filled with the people that quit and gave up after advertising the product.  It's hard to argue with the facts.

To your MASSIVE success!
Steve Farber
Lake Charles, LA

[Tatjana Prelog]

Well, Norma I'll put my effort to be as efficient teacher as I can possibly be.

Amy - thanks for the lesson. I'm far from knowing everything so every information is welcome!

Tatjana
(sonček)

 

[Amy Derby]

So with all that said, don't advertise the product, advertise the dream, which it more money and free time.  Even if you don't agree with me, don't reinvent the wheel, don't go against the grain because the grain is filled with the people that quit and gave up after advertising the product.  It's hard to argue with the facts.

Not arguing.  Just wondering....

I'm marketing both the opportunity & the product.  However, I've had a much better success rate thus far in "selling" the product than in "selling" the opportunity.

People hear or read "network marketing" and "mlm" and their ears close.  I'm not advertising it that way, but GDI's site does.

Any suggestions on how to market the opportunity in a way that won't get the door slammed in our faces by so many biased prospects? 

I have only been in GDI for a month, but I'm not new to network marketing.  The difference for me with GDI has been that I've been able to sell the product.

Any words of wisdom greatly appreciated.  Thanks for the post.

[gdi]

Hi Steve,

Thank you for starting Part 2.

I have locked Part 1, so all new Posts should be made in this thread.

Chip
Admin

[Steve_Farber]

Hi folks,

If you are having success marketing the product, then I would tell you to keep doing what you are doing. But you might want to start experimenting with marketing the opportunity too, because that is the reason 68% of the people join. I would think there would be less people looking for hosting and more people looking for opportunity out there.

In my opinion, promoting the product is like fishing in a pond and promoting the opportunity is like fishing in the ocean.  Oh by the way, when you fish in the ocean your chances of catching a large fish or a whale is a whole lot better than fishing in that pond.  What I mean by a large fish or whale is describing the people with prior MLM experience and may have a whole school of fish following them right into your net called GDI!

Let's talk about the physiology of advertising:

I'm sure most of you have heard of a company called clickbank.  They help people that have created e-books a place to sell what they have created.  If you start clicking on some of the links and checking out their sales pages, you will notice one common thread.  They are all structured the same.  They start off with a compelling and attention getting something like this:
"Here's Exactly How My Software Will Help You Get TONS More Traffic As Easily As Turning On A Water Faucet!"

Read On To Discover Just How Easy And Simple It Is For You To Be Uncovering New Traffic Streams That Won't Cost You A Red Dime In Just Minutes From Now!
Then they go on to tell you how their idea will benefit you, potential buyer.  Throw in some testimonials, and voila!

The point I am trying to make is that they punch you right between the eyes with your own problem then offer you some ice to make it feel better.  It's purely physiological. 

They are using "Jedi mind tricks" on you.  And it works like crazy.

What are the top 2 problems in peoples lives that are causing them to sign up in MLM???

You guessed it! More Money and More Free Time!

Tell them how GDI can fix their problems.  "Hit them between the eyes " with your ad and say GDI will make it feel all better! Then let the 7 minute movie do all of the talking.

I hope none of you think I am trying to be sarcastic, I'm just trying to help people understand the truth.  I'm not going to teach my downline to create a flyer, run an ad, create a biz card that turns off 68% of the people..  There is only a short window before your new sign-up decides to quit if he/she is not getting results.

I've seen too many people advertise the wrong way only to come to me and say GDI doesn't work.  I wan't everyone on this board to be here next year and the year after that.  I want to build a strong GDI that becomes a force to be reconed with in the MLM world.  Let's build it together.

To you MASSIVE success!
Steve Farber
Lake Charles, LA

[Raymond Elrod]

 Hi Everyone,

I have to agree with Norma, I think that you should work at what ever works best for you, but also don't forget the other side. I think that one will compliment the other if you work it right. Do what you are confortable with and if you find it is not doing what you want then it is time to try a different way. Trial and error is where we learn and if you don't learn from your mistakes then you are in trouble.

Everyone Have A Great Day,
Raymond Elrod

[Deborah H]

We need to find words for what we do that dont trigger MLM etc with bad thoughts from the past.
Actually it was said we are not an MLM company.
We are an affiliate program. We market domain names and all that come with it.
I myself think of this as "I am selling a very good product." 
Something many poeple are looking for and cannot find on .com etc.
AND We DO offer a real product. It just happens to include the opportunity to market GDI too.
It's their choice to market GDI or not.
Many have signed up only wanting a domain name and hosting package. Then ended up after their friends saw their websites and learned of the EXTRAS GDI offers-the marketing-etc-they signed up several people without ever intending to market GDI!
We sell domain names and hosting packages with many extras. That's what I do. It has nothing to do with MLM's.
Deborah H

[Steve_Farber]

Hi Deborah,

I have to disagree with anyone that says that GDI is an affiliate program and not MLM (aka Network Marketing).  By the way I don't really like the term MLM either, but it's much easier to type! 

We do call ourselves affiliates, but I believe GDI is more like a hybrid combination of both, but it's more like an MLM. 

How do I know? 

I have been in the MLM industry for over 6 years now and I am also a very active affiliate marketer.  I have also developed several websites that promote true affiliate program links like eBay, JC Whitney, Amazon etc..  Those companies do not pay on multiple levels and I can't recruit other reps and get paid when they sell something. 

Remember, GDI pays on 5 levels!  (Doesn't that sound like Multi Level Marketing to you?)
Definitions*

MLM or multi level marketing is a way of selling products and services through distributors/reps.  An MLM program generally strongly encourages you to recruit other reps and generate sales. Commission payments are given for both recruiting distributors as well as generating sales. A MLM program also always involves an initial investment. 

Most MLM companies pay you a one time bonus for recruiting other reps, but GDI does not (leader-board doesn't count).

An affiliate program is way different from an MLM in the sense that it is referral based marketing and are typically not more than 2 levels (tiers).  An affiliate program requires you to generate sales referrals to the affiliate merchant's website and can earn you commissions based on the type of affiliate plan you opted for. For instance a pay per click plan involves you to get paid based on the number of clicks a visitor from your site generates on the affiliate merchant's website irrespective of the sale he makes. Most affiliate programs are free to join.

The vast majority of affiliate programs DO NOT pay you a monthly residual, only a one time commission!

Two tier affiliate programs do exist, and in a way a two tier affiliate programs can be considered to be somewhat near to a MLM strategy but not close enough. In fact the laws and restrictions change dramatically when you go over 2 levels.
Major differences between an affiliate program and a MLM program*

• Firstly an MLM program involves you to pay a small joining fees as compared to affiliate programs that are generally free
• MLM program needs a person to develop a networking team that an affiliate program does not involve
• Most of the MLM programs need you to buy their products and use them before actually carrying out the marketing process. Something that an affiliate marketing program does not involve.
  
• An MLM program involves being part of a team that an affiliate program does not involve

I hope this clears any confusion

To your MASSIVE SUCCESS!
Steve Farber
Lake Charles, LA[/color]